I cannot imagine how the survivors feel, not least because my mind is reluctant to go to the situation they faced even in imagination.
Being on a largely non-battle apt ship, and attacked continously in the middle eastern heat without anywhere to go or any way to defend oneself, having more or less only hope to rely on. With ones own government apparently viewing you only as meat to be sinked to forward their agenda. Yes it is a harsh description, but i get the impression that it is essentially what happened.
By ones own “ally” nonetheless, while simultaneously being denied help by ones own government. While ones mates are being killed and were it not for some independent good people in the military, the ship would have been finished of.
And after all of this unbelievable procedure. Being told that you cannot speak out about it, or you will face consequences, again, by your own government. Or by third-party lobby groups.
I just wanted to put the situation in perspective based on what ive learnt. It’s not very good but i felt like it.
It is of great importance that such crimes be exposed, whether done by Israel or any other nation, for the good of society.
I listened to your last broadcast, and its very possible the best program i have ever heard. Not that i neccesarely agreed with everything in it, but it sure was absolutely exhilarative, as a caller put it. As someone else said on a forum i frequently visited; good posts make me think, I’l say about radio programs; good programs make me think. And this without a doubt will leave me thinking for many occasions and evenings. It covered a lot of bases.
Now as you know from my previous posts im from europe. Im 19 and we have a draft here, there is a specific number of youth drafted each year. I had the option to go if i wanted to, but opted not to, not least because of the present situation where I am not certain that I would know who I was really serving. I also happen to believe in the concept of militias, with the federal level restricted only to and never beyond the organization part in times of need. With that having been said, i think that the fact that Phil’s sons opted to serve in the military with the information they had about the current situation given by Phil Tourney, is testament of their burning patriotism and determination whatever we might think of their appoach. Id just wish for your sake that you were protecting your own national integrity and interests, that is your borders, something the US is in need of (and many european nations as well in my opinion, but in a different way).
Personally I think its going to take some serious change to literally save our future as free and self-determined nations, and im talking about both the US and the all the more EU-centralized Europe. The most important one is the change of the types of ideas, exposures and information out there for “consumption”. Therefore it is vital that we keep building independent medias where ideas and opinions get expressed. I could give you examples of just how immensely powerful the media is in affecting people, if i digged through my posts on other places, but il leave it be for now. Sufficient to say it is information, knowledge which is going to change things. I didnt listen to this broadcast live, but i did last time and was in the chatroom where i had a private conversation with another chatter. I think he expressed the frustration many of us feel from time to time, calling to arms and what not. I want to remind people and stress that this is an intellectual battle more than anything else. It is a battle for a healthy, freedom and intellectualism loving society versus one where we give up our freedoms for comfort whilst we are literally ruled by a few elite, which is what the NWO is about, it is about some people who believe in world government. Its up to us who are not willing to go along with that agenda to expose it.
Sometimes tuning in to the RBN or turning to other sources i visit and post on, feels like grabbing on to sanity in a world which doesnt always seem to warrant that label. Im very inspired by the US constitution as much as I know that the current USA is not based on its principles. I believe it has failed, but we can learn from the mistakes and create something better for the future. In the end i think the whole structure of society as we know it, that is the political system, needs to be get rid of. From partisan politics to excessive centralized power needs to be dealt with if we want to have a free society the way the founders of the US imagined. We are still the same blood as freedom pioneers in the past, we are still essentially good people, our peoples just dont have the information needed, so it is our duty, us who know any or many of the threats facing us to expose them. Whilst we still can (in canada and some european nations they even ban certain people from using computers and pens ).
To achieve all these things we need to start propagating for our cause like our antagonists do for theirs. If ours is truly the better one, and I know in my heart that we mean well, our movement if it can be called that, draws to it freedom seeking, good meaning people, if our cause is truly the better one it will hold its ground. More importantly we must never back down or let our opinion go unheard when its called for, in the end truth will be at our side because that is the only thing we seek, wherever it might take us, we are doing what we are because we dare to face it no matter how unpopular it was to the powers at be.
Further i have nothing against the jews rights to have their own nation. As much as i find Israels methods and its supporters abroad actions repulsive, i am not opposed to the idea of a jewish homestate. On the contrary i support every peoples right to self-determination. But as long as they even in one way pose a threat to my right to self-determination and freedom, i will expose it no matter what people at the moment want to call me for doing so. Whether or not they will change or not is not in our hands to decide, but at least we must take responsibility for our own, and hopefully they will improve as well one day.
A strong people and nation defends its own borders and is responsible to its own people and their future. But never attacks others, and never seeks to compel their ways on others other than by inspiring. By those beliefs, i have to sadly notice that the USA today is a weak nation ran by weak people, but with many strong individuals in it which i hope will once again be pioneers of freedom. Because great individuals who genuinely take responsibilty and concern for what surrounds them is what changes things. And i want to add that the US is not only of concern to me as a european, but I also have family living there.
Some american indians apparently had as a custom to think seven generations ahead when making decisions, I think that would be a good rule of thumb to adopt.
Thank you for letting me babble this incoherent mess :).
P.S. Thanks for your program and it offering a plattform for all people who want to speak their mind.
March 2, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Very good show.
I cannot imagine how the survivors feel, not least because my mind is reluctant to go to the situation they faced even in imagination.
Being on a largely non-battle apt ship, and attacked continously in the middle eastern heat without anywhere to go or any way to defend oneself, having more or less only hope to rely on. With ones own government apparently viewing you only as meat to be sinked to forward their agenda. Yes it is a harsh description, but i get the impression that it is essentially what happened.
By ones own “ally” nonetheless, while simultaneously being denied help by ones own government. While ones mates are being killed and were it not for some independent good people in the military, the ship would have been finished of.
And after all of this unbelievable procedure. Being told that you cannot speak out about it, or you will face consequences, again, by your own government. Or by third-party lobby groups.
I just wanted to put the situation in perspective based on what ive learnt. It’s not very good but i felt like it.
It is of great importance that such crimes be exposed, whether done by Israel or any other nation, for the good of society.
March 9, 2008 at 10:13 pm
Hi!
I listened to your last broadcast, and its very possible the best program i have ever heard. Not that i neccesarely agreed with everything in it, but it sure was absolutely exhilarative, as a caller put it. As someone else said on a forum i frequently visited; good posts make me think, I’l say about radio programs; good programs make me think. And this without a doubt will leave me thinking for many occasions and evenings. It covered a lot of bases.
Now as you know from my previous posts im from europe. Im 19 and we have a draft here, there is a specific number of youth drafted each year. I had the option to go if i wanted to, but opted not to, not least because of the present situation where I am not certain that I would know who I was really serving. I also happen to believe in the concept of militias, with the federal level restricted only to and never beyond the organization part in times of need. With that having been said, i think that the fact that Phil’s sons opted to serve in the military with the information they had about the current situation given by Phil Tourney, is testament of their burning patriotism and determination whatever we might think of their appoach. Id just wish for your sake that you were protecting your own national integrity and interests, that is your borders, something the US is in need of (and many european nations as well in my opinion, but in a different way).
Personally I think its going to take some serious change to literally save our future as free and self-determined nations, and im talking about both the US and the all the more EU-centralized Europe. The most important one is the change of the types of ideas, exposures and information out there for “consumption”. Therefore it is vital that we keep building independent medias where ideas and opinions get expressed. I could give you examples of just how immensely powerful the media is in affecting people, if i digged through my posts on other places, but il leave it be for now. Sufficient to say it is information, knowledge which is going to change things. I didnt listen to this broadcast live, but i did last time and was in the chatroom where i had a private conversation with another chatter. I think he expressed the frustration many of us feel from time to time, calling to arms and what not. I want to remind people and stress that this is an intellectual battle more than anything else. It is a battle for a healthy, freedom and intellectualism loving society versus one where we give up our freedoms for comfort whilst we are literally ruled by a few elite, which is what the NWO is about, it is about some people who believe in world government. Its up to us who are not willing to go along with that agenda to expose it.
Sometimes tuning in to the RBN or turning to other sources i visit and post on, feels like grabbing on to sanity in a world which doesnt always seem to warrant that label. Im very inspired by the US constitution as much as I know that the current USA is not based on its principles. I believe it has failed, but we can learn from the mistakes and create something better for the future. In the end i think the whole structure of society as we know it, that is the political system, needs to be get rid of. From partisan politics to excessive centralized power needs to be dealt with if we want to have a free society the way the founders of the US imagined. We are still the same blood as freedom pioneers in the past, we are still essentially good people, our peoples just dont have the information needed, so it is our duty, us who know any or many of the threats facing us to expose them. Whilst we still can (in canada and some european nations they even ban certain people from using computers and pens
).
To achieve all these things we need to start propagating for our cause like our antagonists do for theirs. If ours is truly the better one, and I know in my heart that we mean well, our movement if it can be called that, draws to it freedom seeking, good meaning people, if our cause is truly the better one it will hold its ground. More importantly we must never back down or let our opinion go unheard when its called for, in the end truth will be at our side because that is the only thing we seek, wherever it might take us, we are doing what we are because we dare to face it no matter how unpopular it was to the powers at be.
Further i have nothing against the jews rights to have their own nation. As much as i find Israels methods and its supporters abroad actions repulsive, i am not opposed to the idea of a jewish homestate. On the contrary i support every peoples right to self-determination. But as long as they even in one way pose a threat to my right to self-determination and freedom, i will expose it no matter what people at the moment want to call me for doing so. Whether or not they will change or not is not in our hands to decide, but at least we must take responsibility for our own, and hopefully they will improve as well one day.
A strong people and nation defends its own borders and is responsible to its own people and their future. But never attacks others, and never seeks to compel their ways on others other than by inspiring. By those beliefs, i have to sadly notice that the USA today is a weak nation ran by weak people, but with many strong individuals in it which i hope will once again be pioneers of freedom. Because great individuals who genuinely take responsibilty and concern for what surrounds them is what changes things. And i want to add that the US is not only of concern to me as a european, but I also have family living there.
Some american indians apparently had as a custom to think seven generations ahead when making decisions, I think that would be a good rule of thumb to adopt.
Thank you for letting me babble this incoherent mess :).
P.S. Thanks for your program and it offering a plattform for all people who want to speak their mind.